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Here are some facts about human reproduction.
The best success rate using artificial insemination is 35%.
The data on in vitro fertilization is:
30% to 35% success for women under age 35;
25% for women ages 35 to 37;
15% to 20% for women ages 38 to 40 and
6% to 10% for women over age 40.
Since the above is known via egg and sperm being connected it is reasonable to conclude the same percentage of success of a viable preganancy beginning results when egg and sperm connect via copulation. The reverse of the data establishes the fact that in 65% of the times an egg and sperm connect preganancy does not result.
Is it reasonable to consider the day after pill an abortive act?
Is it reasonable to consider dousing after copulating an abortive act?
The word abortion should not be considered until one menstral period is missed. Even then it should be used cautiuously because in 20% of the time a miscarriage happens.
When I read about bishops denying Communion to a polititian because he/she accepts the law legalizing abortions I wonder about their intelligence. Abortion became legal to save the lives of women who were going to quacks and using coat hangers.
To be pro choice does not mean pro abortion.
In the case of incest or rape the woman should take immediate steps to assure the 35% chance of pregnancy doesn't happen.
In the case of a woman who has missed one menstral period you have a single individual facing an ethical decision.
These kind of ethical decisions cannot be solved by civil laws. The church can declare sin to the decision to stop the chance of continuing pregnancy. The church should not interfere in all peoples consciecious decisions and declare the law allowing abortion to be sinful.
Just at the church was wrong on usury, solar system, slavery,
no meat on Friday and not even water after midnight if one was to receive Communion the next day, the church is wrong about abortion.

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What is Pro-Life? A

What is Pro-Life?

A political candidate’s position on abortion has become the de facto litmus test of morality, and of respect for life. However, the data show that these also have a profound effect on life. Consider the matter of health care. For a study of life expectancy in the United States published in PLoS Medicine in 2006, Harvard Professor Christopher Murray analyzed 8 years of census and health statistics data. He found an astonishing 35 year gap - in life expectancy based on county of residence, income, and other social factors. In my home county, Fairfax Virginia, life expectancy is among the top ten in the US ­ about 81 years. Life expectancy in counties at the bottom is only 46 years, shorter than that in many developing countries! This isn’t a new finding - many other studies found similar results. There are several reasons for premature death, but socioeconomic status and access to health care are the heavyweights. Thus, health care in particular, as well as many other policy differences between the political parties can have as profound an influence on life as the death penalty or abortion. Clearly, the moral justification for voting cannot be based on a single issue.

As a Catholic, I've been opposed to abortion all my life, and efforts to reduce abortions must continue. However, the pro-life concept must encompass all causes of death, not only abortion. The positions the Democratic Party has held with respect to universal health care, taxation, unemployment, war and torture, all of which have life-or-death consequences, are more consistently pro-life than those of the Republicans. My conscience requires that I vote for Barack Obama, and I will do so with great enthusiasm and hope.

Peter Kaufmann, Ph.D.
Past President, Society of Behavioral Medicine
Secretary, International Society of Behavioral Medicine
The views expressed above are not necessarily those of the SBM or ISBM.

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Thank you for posting what I

Thank you for posting what I had to say about abortion. It was nice to read what others had to say. The response about usury was interesting. In the dioceses in which I have lived the Bishop charged the parishes borrowing a higher interest than the bank. Like any good thing it can be terribly abused but that does not negate it's goodness.

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You wrote: The reverse of

You wrote: The reverse of the data establishes the fact that in 65% of the times an egg and sperm connect preganancy does not result.
Is it reasonable to consider the day after pill an abortive act?

The church defines conception as fertilization. Science defines it as implantation. Even the language upholds that. If conception came before implantation, who has conceived? Not the woman, not at least until implantation. Laws based on fertilization =conception would ban not only abortion, but oral contaceptives as well.

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Frannie, don't you think

Frannie, don't you think that's the whole idea. When Paul VI's encyclical fell flat on it's face, something else had to be taught in order to bolster the teaching against birth control.

Science itself would not say fertilization is equivalent to a distinct life form for two reasons. Twinning occurs days after conception, and secondly, the reason of your afore mentioned issue of implantation. But then, what's reason in the face of faith?

http://enlightenedcatholicism-colkoch.blogspot.com

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If twinning is telling us

If twinning is telling us something, it might be telling us that the reason for twinning is that two souls entered one fertilized egg.

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It might also be telling us

It might also be telling us that two potential incarnate bodies are available for souls who wish to share the same genetics.

http://enlightenedcatholicism-colkoch.blogspot.com

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Ever since the pedophile

Ever since the pedophile coverup hit the presses, I have held the belief that if the RCC Magisterial Authority says that something is right and good, then odds are it isnt.

Sad to say, so far, that axiom continues to hold true.

Every now and then it doesnt, but most of the time it does.

Sad, very sad indeed.

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So the church was WRONG

So the church was WRONG about usury? Unjust interest rates and unfair tactics are tearing this country apart seems like usury to me. It reminds me of Shylock in 'The Merchant of Venice'. Now we are being forced to accept as a country what the banks refuse to accept, garbage loans. CEOs inflate the value of their companies, present the result as strength adn walk away with millions upon millions. Some people should be in jail but instead they will be promoted and hit the front page in the press.
Every man woman and child now owes an additional $3,500.00.
Doesn't anyone want a government that works?
So the church was wrong about no meat on Friday? Accidentally She was right but not that we should eat fish. Vegetarian food is more ecologically correct and more health-giving.
About abortion, Bishops who speak as you did about abortion would get a message from the Vatican. Instead they play right into the hands of the press.Abortion is in part a symptom of the times we live in.They,the bishops, sit condemning abortion but never reach out a hand to the pregnant women,never support adoptions, never consider anyone who has to try IVF. According to them conception is an inconvenience.

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You undoubtedly know that

You undoubtedly know that the "fish on Friday" edict was economic rather than religious. It was to save the economy of Spain and/or Portugal (good Catholic bastions). How many souls "went to hell" laden with the "mortal sin" because of the Church intervention in the secular economy?

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The Church is wrong about

The Church is wrong about human reproduction. It is wrong in its understanding of human behavior, believing it to be commonplace that people will abandon themselves to sensual pleasures without conscience. It is wrong in its teaching that nothing must ever interfere with the progress of sperm and egg, as if the only reason there are billions of people in the world is because copulating couples failed to prevent it.

I agree with you, Aloysius, that abortion is defined too broadly by the Church. However, even if the Church were to be more restricted in it definition of abortion, it still has too many other rules that don't respect people's intelligence or good intentions.

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