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The Vision Thing

In his recent column at the Chicago Sun-Times, suntimes.com, Fr. Andrew Greeley places the experience factor beneath vision and character in the search for a Presidential Candidate. Experience has brought us failures from the Watergate/ Viet Nam Era and their lousy attitudes, today. John Kennedy and his superior instincts saved us alot of grief in the Cuban Missile Crisis. If the crowd we have now was confronted in the same way much of what is, ironically, a source of their staunchest support in the South would still be glowing in the dark.

Greeley holds Lincoln up as a hallmark of vision and character. From my reading he seems to prefer Barack Obama as a fresh start in this vein. Abe was not considered too experienced either, but is still revered for his judgement in our direst hour as a nation. I think this is well worth the consideration for our future. More of the same stuff we are being fed now is unacceptable.

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jstab, "I have been

jstab,
"I have been engrossed in the debates and election 2008. My republican hopeful is John McCain. I see the "vision" that underlies his works. He has both vision and experience. He is a stand up guy."

I obviously do not "see" what you "see" in John McCain. John McCain, to me, stands up for more War, more Taxes, more DEBT, and more of the SAME that we SEEN with Bush. He represents to me MORE of increased national debt to China and Saudi Arabia, more job losses, more foreclosures, a continued devaluation of the dollar, no new jobs, an environmental policy that will create more greenhouse gasses and cancers from the pollution of fossil fuels and extremes in bad or odd weather patterns, more oil drilling, and more profits for the corporations who continue to not pay taxes with offshore address loopholes. Please enlighten me on what you "see" in McCain so that I may have a better understanding of "his vision" and why you would choose him as the next President.

Where does McCain stand on issues such as NAFTA? What is his foreign policy? Will he bring back the draft to keep us in Iraq for 100 years? How is McCain different from Bush?

The only thing that I can see that he has done right is to challenge Bush on the issue of water-boarding and calling it torture and his insisting on the US military practicing the mandates of the Geneva Convention.

Does McCain support privately run militaries like Blackwater? Will McCain make Blackwater abide by and be accountable to the laws of the United States, like the US military is accountable for atrocities and breaking the law? Currently Blackwater is accountable to no one.

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butterfly, don't forget that

butterfly, don't forget that McCain caved on the issue of torture.

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Hi Marie, No, I didn't know

Hi Marie,
No, I didn't know that he caved. I was hoping to find something positive in McCain, now there is possibly nothing positive in him.

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So much of Jesus' teaching

So much of Jesus' teaching is about the future. If He were running for the office of presidency,how would the message come across? The future would be the central theme. The senator from Illinois seems to think 'future' in most of his speech. He thinks 'ideal' whereas the senator from NY offers 'experience' [the Clinton era was nothing to write home about until comparisons are made to the present] and a 'we did it before attitude'. Obama's soul seems to come from where he came from-no reason to go back there so it is onward and upward. This is not my final thought on it yet but we do need hope and change.

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I feel the same way. Even

I feel the same way. Even though I am proud Republican, I have been totally impressed by the young Senator from Illnois. He has carried himself with class, dignity, and is firmly grounded in a vision. For faithful readers in this cafe, you may remember my "affinity" for the carpet-bagging Senator from New York. While she states that she is the embodiment of change, Senator Obama is the embodiment of racial harmony and peace. He is, at one time, both black and white, gentile and islam, product of Catholic education.

I have been engrossed in the debates and election 2008. My republican hopeful is John McCain. I see the "vision" that underlies his works. He has both vision and experience. He is a stand up guy.

However, in the unfortunate event that a Democrat becomes President, I wouldn't be so depressed to see classy visionary young senator.

P.S. I hope that political conversations and opinions aren't taboo here and that we can openly speak of the issues and candidates (even being colorful and cutting at times). Maybe, Dennis, we can even open a forum, "Election 2008" for the next 11 months.

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